~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Ness research US Census data found so far - 4/20/2006 J.Wilkinson ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Note: you can find 1880 images on HeritageQuest, but need to search by page example: series:1800-T9 Roll:1207 Page:416 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 1880: John (J.?) Ness, wife Elizabeth, son Edward, & servant POSSIBLY John & Elizabeth Ness, the parents of John Harrison Ness John Har. Ness was born in 1891, so wouldn't have been shown here. How do we decide if this is our line? - John & Elizabeth's ages match, place matches - John's working in the railroad matches later data - son Edward is possibly our J&E since they had many children, but Edward is not yet confirmed anywhere else yet. 1880 > YORK > YORK > PENNSYLVANIA Series: T9 Roll: 1207 Page: 416 image 2, lines 19-22. Enumerated June 18, 1880. saved as: 1880_ness_john_family.gif Ness, John head of household married, white, age=22 born in Pennsylvania, Father & Mother born in PA occupation: rail roading Ness, Elizabeth wife, married, age=22, occup: keeping house born in Pennsylvania, Father & Mother born in PA Ness, Edward son, age=1 born in Pennsylvania, Father & Mother born in PA Eberly, Kate (think she's same household) widow, age=69, occup: keeping house born in Baden, Father & Mother born in Baden This is also mentioned on the LDS website. http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/census/household_record.asp?HOUSEHOLD_CODE=1880US_10287617&HOUSEHOLD_SUB=1&frompage=5 Household: Name Relation Marital Status Gender Race Age Birthplace Occupation Father's Birthplace Mother's Birthplace John NESS Self M Male W 22 PA R.R. PA BADEN Elizabeth NESS Wife M Female W 22 PA Keeping House PA BADEN Edward NESS Son S Male W 1 PA - PA BADEN Kate EBERLY Other W Female W 69 BADEN Keeping House BAD BAD WARNING: Looking at the image, it's clear that LDS mistranscribed the Mother's birthplace for the 1st 3 lines. They all say Penn, NOT Baden. Only Kate Eberly lists Baden. Ancestry.com also has this error. Source Information: Census Place York, York, Pennsylvania Family History Library Film 1255207 NA Film Number T9-1207 Page Number 416D John (J) Ness is mentioned here http://www.gencircles.com/users/cherylann402/2/data/4834 http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=cherylann402&id=I4834 Contact: Cheryl Lutz (cherylann402@yahoo.com) says source is this 1880 census record That tree says Kate Eberly is Elizabeth (Snyder) Ness's mother see if I can verify that Our data says John J's wife's maiden name was Snyder. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 1900: John J. Ness & Family - parents of John Harrison Ness J=Jefferson, census only lists the initial match to John Harrison Ness confirmed by data from Uncle John 1900 > PENNSYLVANIA > YORK > PEACH BOTTOM TWP Series: T623 Roll: 1500 Page: 113 Enumerated June 20, 1900 saved as: 1900_ness_john_j_family.gif Ness, John J. head of household age: 44, male, white, married years in present marriage: 22 born in May? 1856 born in Pennsylvania father born in Pennsylvania, mother born in Pennsylvania profession: breaksman? Ness, Elizabeth wife age: 43, female, white, married years in present marriage: 22 born in May 1857 children: 10, number living: 9 *** note some not living with them then born in Pennsylvania father born in Pennsylvania, mother born in Pennsylvania Ness, Daniel son, age: 16, born May 1884, male, white, single born in Pennsylvania father born in Pennsylvania, mother born in Pennsylvania profession: (hard to read) Ness, Lillie daughter, age 10, born Jan 1890, female, single, occ: school Ness, John H. (or K?) ---- this is our John Harrison Ness. birth date matches son, age 10, born Oct 1891, male, white single, occ: school (note that this same family in the 1910 census clearly has John H. (not K.) Ness, Flora P daughter, age 7, born April 1893, female, white single, occ: school Ness, William son, age 6, born May 1894, male, white single Ness, ?Emma? (name hard to read) daughter, age 3, born april 1897, female ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 1910: John J. Ness & Family - parents of John Harrison Ness J=Jefferson, census only lists the initial match to John Harrison Ness confirmed by data from Uncle John 1910 > PENNSYLVANIA > YORK > YOE BORO Series: T624 Roll: 1434 Page: 268 Enumerated April 18, 1910 saved as: 1910_ness_john_j_family.gif Ness, John J. head of household age: 54, male, white, married years in present marriage: 31 born in Pennsylvania father born in Pennsylvania, mother born in Pennsylvania profession: laborer, in railroad station Ness, Elizabeth wife age: 51, female, white, married years in present marriage: 31 children: 11, number living: 7 *** note some not living with them then born in Pennsylvania father born in Pennsylvania, mother born in Pennsylvania Ness, Lillie M. daughter, age 20, female, white, single, occ: cigar maker in cigar factory Ness, John H. ---- this is our John Harrison Ness. birth date matches son, age 18, male, white single, occ: student in college (check date vs JHN's college years in UMC bio) Ness, Flora P daughter, age 17, female, white, single, occ: cigar maker in cigar factory Ness, William son, age 15, male, white single, occ: none (note it says Elizabeth had 11 children, 7 living. In the 1900 census she has 9 of 10 living. Some must have died, some must not living with them at this time) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 1920: John J. Ness & Family - POSSIBLY parents of John Harrison Ness ??? J=Jefferson, census only lists the initial match to John Harrison Ness confirmed by data from Uncle John 1920 > PENNSYLVANIA > YORK > YOE Series: T625 Roll: 1668 Page: 279 lines 27-29 Enumerated January 10, 1920 saved as: 1920_ness_john_j_family.gif Only John J.(62), Elizabeth (61) and Lillie (27) are together at this census. John J. is working as a janitor for the railroad depot Elizabeth & Lilly (lillie?) are both cigar makers in a cigar factory Note that for Elizabeth's mother's place of birth, Pennsylvania is scratched out and "German" is added. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 1920: John H (Harrison) Ness, wife Myra and son John H. (Herbert) H=Harrison in father, H=Herbert in son. Census only lists the initials. 1920 > PENNSYLVANIA > YORK > YORK Series: T625 Roll: 1669 Page: 145 Lines 56,57,58 Enumerated January 28-29?, 1920 saved as: 1920_ness_john_h_sr_family.gif Ness, John H head of household, home is rented age: 28 male, white, married, can read & write born in Pennsylvania father born in Pennsylvania mother born in Pennsylvania profession: clergy, works at church Ness, Myra G. wife age: 30? female, white, married, can read & write born in Maryland father born in Virginia ? (hard to read) mother born in West Virginia ? (hard to read) profession: home Ness, John H son age: 2 or 3 months? male, white, single, can't read & write born in Maryland father born in Pennsylvania mother born in Maryland profession: none ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ look up this one [1930 Census: York, York Co., PA 119-62-77, John H. Ness (38), Occupation: Clergy, U. B. Church. Also listed are wife Myra G. (40), and sons John H. (10) and Robert R. (7).] ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 1900: James H. Kiracofe & Family 1900 > MARYLAND > WASHINGTON > HAGERSTOWN Series: T623 Roll: 629 Page: 72 (subpage b) lines 66-70/71? Enumerated June 23, 1900 saved as: 1900_kiracofe_james_h_family.gif note: those on lines 70 & 71 might be relatives or others living with them. note 70 last name is Stroh, same as Lilly's maiden name. Kifacofe, James H. head of household, Date of Birth: Sept 1857 age: 42, male, white, years in present marriage: 12 born in Virginia father born in Virginia, mother born in Virginia profession: farmer, at a general farm, (more here, hard to read, check blank 1910 census form for headings) Kiracofe, Lillie V. wife Date of Birth: May 1871 age: 28 ? female, white, years in present marriage: 12 children: 3, number living: 2 born in West Virginia (WV differs from VA reported in 1910) father born in Pennsylvania, mother born in Pennsylvania (PA differs from VA reported in 1910) Kiracofe, Myra G. daughter Date of Birth: Aug 1889 **** age: 10 female, white, single born in Maryland father born in Virginia, mother born in West Virginia profession: At School Kiracofe, Pauline A. daughter Date of Birth: Aug 1899 age: 10 months, female, white, single born in Maryland father born in Virginia, mother born in West Virginia Stroh, Riley A. ? who is she? can't read relationship, last name same as Lilly's maiden name age: 18, born Jan 1882, female, single Beard, G??? line 71 person, same household, age: 12, born Sept 1887, male, single is relationship saying "servant"? what is occupation saying? 4 months unemployed ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 1910: James H. Kiracofe & Family 1910 > MARYLAND > WASHINGTON > 25-DIST Series: T624 Roll: 569 Page: 88 lines 51-55 Enumerated May 16, 1910 saved as: 1910_kiracofe_james_h_family.gif KIRACOFE, JAMES H (1910 U.S. Census) MARYLAND , WASHINGTON, 25-DIST Age: 52, Male, Race: WHITE, Born: VA Series: T624 Roll: 569 Page: 88 Kifacofe, James H. head of household, age: 52, male, white, years in present marriage: 23 born in Virginia father born in Virginia, mother born in Virginia profession: farmer, at a general farm, (more here, hard to read, check blank 1910 census form for headings) Kiracofe, Lillie V. wife age: 39 ? female, white, years in present marriage: 23 children: 4, number living: 3 (hard to read the page headers, check form template for 1910) born in Virginia father born in Virginia, mother born in Virginia Kiracofe, Myra G. daughter age: 21 female, white, single born in Maryland father born in Virginia, mother born in Virginia Kiracofe, Pauline A. daughter age: 10 female, white, single born in Maryland father born in Virginia, mother born in Virginia Kiracofe, James ??? son age: 3 male, white, single born in Maryland father born in Virginia, mother born in Virginia --